Comments on: Tags: Sociology In A Virtual World http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html Welcome To Shrinkonia. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:24:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Trusting People You Don't Know | Bas de Baar - Project Shrink http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1720 Trusting People You Don't Know | Bas de Baar - Project Shrink Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:28:02 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1720 [...] a very early draft of a chapter from “Tags: Living In A Virtual World“. I use this blog as a notebook for drafts, so you can provide me with feedback in an early [...] [...] a very early draft of a chapter from “Tags: Living In A Virtual World“. I use this blog as a notebook for drafts, so you can provide me with feedback in an early [...]

]]> By: Memes and Emotions // Project Shrink Blog http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1719 Memes and Emotions // Project Shrink Blog Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:04:33 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1719 [...] Management” is a concept, an idea. It’s a tag to a unit of information, a meme. Same goes for “Agile”. Or “Rudolf The Red Nosed [...] [...] Management” is a concept, an idea. It’s a tag to a unit of information, a meme. Same goes for “Agile”. Or “Rudolf The Red Nosed [...]

]]> By: Bas de Baar http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1718 Bas de Baar Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:34:23 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1718 Hi Moses, I totally agree. Hi Moses,

I totally agree.

]]> By: Bas de Baar http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1717 Bas de Baar Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:33:15 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1717 Hi Robert, Thanks for your opinion. Appreciated. You are right in the dynamic nature of the communities. I don't have a static view of tags, but I will think about making this more clear/obvious etc. And many, many thanks for the references. Regards, Bas Hi Robert,

Thanks for your opinion. Appreciated. You are right in the dynamic nature of the communities. I don’t have a static view of tags, but I will think about making this more clear/obvious etc. And many, many thanks for the references.

Regards,
Bas

]]> By: Moses http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1716 Moses Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:26:59 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1716 Yes it's true that we cannot put everyone in a box. However, i always believed that if you don't have time to coach and encourage your team, at the end, you will still never have time to coach and encourage your team members. I believed that technical leads that is very familiar with the domain of the project should always be proactive in helping his PM so that his PM is able to know how to plan and what are are the critical road block to clear Yes it’s true that we cannot put everyone in a box. However, i always believed that if you don’t have time to coach and encourage your team, at the end, you will still never have time to coach and encourage your team members. I believed that technical leads that is very familiar with the domain of the project should always be proactive in helping his PM so that his PM is able to know how to plan and what are are the critical road block to clear

]]> By: Robert Fabian http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1715 Robert Fabian Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:20:39 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1715 Interesting ... I can buy into part of what you describe, but have difficulty with the static nature of tags. We are significantly defined, and determined, by the communities which we join and in which we find ourselves. Our community and its "tools" (in a Vygotskian sense) are essential to both language and cognition. G.H.Mead, in North America, mapped this territory almost a century ago, as did Lev Vygotsky in the early USSR. A tag may help to situate an issue or an individual against a community, but the tag and the community are not identical. The virtual challenge that I see is that online communities (especially ones defined by a tag) lack "depth". In a physical, real community, I can turn to members of my community on a range of issues, concerns, and opportunities. Virtual communities are often focused on a particular issue or concern. They don't provide the multi-dimensional support that we need from our communities. Further, community is not something that can be captured in a static representation. It's a dynamic entity with a history and a future that strongly colours the reality of community membership. Tags strip out the dynamic nature, and capture only an aspect of a (thin) virtual community. As human beings, we need more. My $0.02. Robert Fabian Interesting …

I can buy into part of what you describe, but have difficulty with the static nature of tags. We are significantly defined, and determined, by the communities which we join and in which we find ourselves. Our community and its “tools” (in a Vygotskian sense) are essential to both language and cognition. G.H.Mead, in North America, mapped this territory almost a century ago, as did Lev Vygotsky in the early USSR.

A tag may help to situate an issue or an individual against a community, but the tag and the community are not identical. The virtual challenge that I see is that online communities (especially ones defined by a tag) lack “depth”. In a physical, real community, I can turn to members of my community on a range of issues, concerns, and opportunities. Virtual communities are often focused on a particular issue or concern. They don’t provide the multi-dimensional support that we need from our communities.

Further, community is not something that can be captured in a static representation. It’s a dynamic entity with a history and a future that strongly colours the reality of community membership. Tags strip out the dynamic nature, and capture only an aspect of a (thin) virtual community. As human beings, we need more.

My $0.02.

Robert Fabian

]]> By: Bas de Baar http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1714 Bas de Baar Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:47:42 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1714 Hi Kman, true. But the idea is more that we put people in multiple boxes, or exclude them from boxes. To keep with the metaphor. The selection of boxes you are in AND the selection of boxes you are not in make the identity. I hope I didn't confuse too much :D Hi Kman, true. But the idea is more that we put people in multiple boxes, or exclude them from boxes. To keep with the metaphor. The selection of boxes you are in AND the selection of boxes you are not in make the identity.

I hope I didn’t confuse too much :D

]]> By: KMan http://www.projectshrink.com/tags-sociology-in-a-virtual-world-2447.html#comment-1713 KMan Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:30:02 +0000 http://blog.softwareprojects.org/?p=2447#comment-1713 "Without groups, the whole concept of identity wouldn’t make sense"... great idea but its true as well that we cant put everyone in a box. “Without groups, the whole concept of identity wouldn’t make sense”… great idea but its true as well that we cant put everyone in a box.

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